Readers question shingles vaccine

DEAR DR. GOTT: I just took the shingles vaccine at a local drugstore. I filled out papers but nowhere did it mention that anyone who had a history of cancer should not take the vaccine. Please advise.

DEAR DR. GOTT: In your recent column, you said that the shingles vaccine should not be given to former cancer patients. I am in remission from large B cell non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. I have Wegener’s granulomatosis, which although in remission, is still there. The Wegener’s is the reason that a shingles vaccine is recommended. I will be having CD19 level blood testing before any vaccination, but with my history, should I still have the vaccine?
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Shingles vaccine not right for everyone

DEAR DR. GOTT: There seems to be some confusion about whether or not an older person should take the shingles shot. My husband is over 70 and has been advised that, because he can’t remember having chickenpox (even though he might have been exposed to it), he does not need to take it. In fact, if he takes it, it might even prove harmful.

He has been further advised that there is a simple test his doctor should administer before giving him the shingles shot if he (my husband) is unsure as to whether he ever had chickenpox or not. Please advise. Thank you.
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DEAR DR. GOTT:
After reading your March column about Zostavax I had to write.

I was finally able to convince my mother to get the shingles vaccine but her doctor would only give her a prescription for it. He wouldn’t administer it because of the short window in which is has to be given.

Mom and I searched for weeks to find a health care provider who administered the vaccine. A local internist would administer it BUT only if my mother was able to get the vaccine and bring it to him. As you indicated, it must be kept frozen in order for it to be effective so I made several phone calls, wrote emails and even contacted the health reporter from one of our news stations in search of a provider of the vaccine. No one was able to help.

I finally contacted AARP who suggested I write to the CDC. They, in turn, recommended that I contact Merck who developed the vaccine. [Read more...]

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DEAR DR. GOTT:
I am a registered pharmacist and immunization coordinator at a pharmacy in Wisconsin. I’m writing in response to one of your current articles regarding Zostavax, the shingles vaccine. I am hoping to help you clarify some of the issues that your reader brought up, as well as to update you on some current practices.

Forty-seven states now allow pharmacists to give a multitude of vaccines, such as influenza, pneumonia and shingles. Pharmacists who wish to provide this service must pass a national accreditation. This often involves showing how the vaccine is made, how to administer it, how to screen patients to determine who should not get the injection and what adverse effects may occur. Most pharmacists are certified in CPR and have the necessary medications on hand (to give while waiting for the ambulance) if an allergic reaction occurs.

This eliminates the middle man having to pick up the vaccine at the patient’s local pharmacy and bring it to a doctor’s office. I know this type of practice works in many situations, but because of the small window of time when the shingles vaccine is reconstituted, there is much room for error and a subsequent waste of the vaccine and money.

Also, you stated that Medicare does not cover the vaccine. Medicare part D, the prescription portion, does cover the vaccine at a co-pay to the patient. This works a lot like getting any other prescription at a pharmacy where you pay a portion of the cost, except that you are receiving a vaccine instead. We have had a lot of patients that want the vaccine and many are willing to pay the entire price if their insurance does not cover it.

Many of our patients read your column and hold your opinions with high regard, so thank you for addressing the shingles vaccine. You are correct that many physicians are staying away from giving the vaccine because of storage requirements and also because of the cost associated with holding the vaccine. Therefore, this has given immunizing pharmacists a niche in helping prevent painful diseases.

DEAR READER:
Thank you for the information. I was not aware that a nationally accredited pharmacist can provide such a worthwhile community service. It has also been brought to my attention that some pharmacies have nurses on staff to give a variety of vaccines directly to individuals.

I urge patients to discuss any possible immunization with his or her primary care physician. Regardless of which medical professional gives the injection, there are some instances when it is not recommended. For instance, patients with an egg allergy, a compromised immune system or the use of certain medications that suppress the immune system are often not candidates for vaccinations.

Once Zostavax is reconstituted, the window of opportunity for immunization is only 30 minutes. Should the doctor be running late, if the patient is caught in traffic between the pharmacy and the physician’s office, or any delay occurs and more than 30 minutes has elapsed, this $200 drug must be discarded. In many instances this is not the doctor’s fault, nor is it that of the patient. Accidents happen, but this could be a very costly one.

While the price of the shingles vaccine isn’t recognized by Medicare and might become the responsibility of the recipient, a pharmacy can charge Medicare $20 for the actual injection. This provides an incentive for the pharmacy to offer the service, frees up the doctor’s office, and provides the patient with prompt service. As you stated, Medicare part D (Medicare drug insurance) may cover part or most of the vaccination cost. This is especially helpful to those on limited incomes but are at high risk for contracting shingles.

I was unaware that so many states allowed pharmacists to provide immunizations. Only Maine, New York and West Virginia do not allow this. New York, however, is currently trying to get legislation through that would give pharmacists this ability following proper accreditation. Most supporters point out that seniors are more likely to receive flu and pneumonia vaccinations if they don’t have to go to their physician’s offices. This, in many instances, can save lives by preventing illness in those most susceptible to serious infection.

Thank you for writing. I am glad to know that there are many more sources available for vaccinations.

Readers, if this is something you are interested in, ask your local pharmacist if he or she is accredited and if not, if they know of a pharmacist who is. This can save you both money and time.

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DEAR DR. GOTT:
This letter is to inquire about the availability of the shingles vaccine, Zostavax. The most recent ladies’ magazines (i.e., Good Housekeeping and Women’s day), The Saturday Evening Post and the September issue of Johns Hopkins Newsletter advised that women over the age of 60 receive the vaccine for shingles, especially if they had chickenpox as children.

My sister and I have spent weeks trying to locate someone to administer this vaccine. Johns Hopkins advised us to check with our family doctor. He advised us to check with a dermatologist who advised us to check with our local Health Department. They then referred us to the Passport Office.

Can you unravel this mystery?

DEAR READER:
And mysterious it is. Under normal circumstances, a family physician can order the vaccine and administer it. Your doctor appears to be passing the buck unnecessarily.

Zostavax is an injection that helps prevent shingles. It is recommended for individuals 60 and older. Those with compromised immune systems or are taking medications that affect the immune system and women who are of childbearing age or are pregnant or breastfeeding should not receive the vaccination.

According to the Physicians’ Desk Reference, the vaccine should be stored frozen and reconstituted immediately before administration. If not used within 30 minutes it must be thrown away. It comes in single dose vials so there is no extra vaccine that must be given in that short time frame or wasted cost. There is no statement that says it must be administered by a specific type of medical specialist, therefore I don’t understand why your physician cannot do the job. I see no reason he cannot give the injection other than simply not wanting to hassle with the specific administration instructions (which, frankly, is not a good enough reason).

If he is worried about losing money should you fail to show for your appointment, I suggest that he order the vaccine through your local pharmacy which you can then pick up and pay for on your way to the appointment. This ensures you get the vaccine in the appropriate time frame and the physician does not lose money buying a vaccine which can easily spoil.

I have found in my own practice, this method works very well and most patients are willing to spend the money for the vaccine. If it is covered under their insurance, they can then submit the bill and be reimbursed directly from the insurance company. Medicare may not cover this expense.

I suggest you discuss this option with your family physician. If he is still unwilling, perhaps you should seek a more understanding and compromising physician. The vaccine is a good health investment and can save you both money and time. Prescription medication to treat shingles can be very expensive, not to mention that shingles can last for weeks or even months. Some individuals have permanent, painful nerve damage. Find a physician who will work with you. Good luck.